Lower Don Trail Public Drop-in Tonight! 4:30-8pm, St. Simons, 525 Bloor St. E.

Learn more details about the Lower Don Trail Improvements, and speak directly with staff and the consulting team about how construction will be carried out.

Date: Tuesday September 15, 2015
Drop-in Time: 4:30 p.m. to 8:00 p.m.
Location: St. Simons-the-Apostle Anglican Church, 525 Bloor St. E.

All information panels from tonight’s event are now online for viewing at toronto.ca/lowerdontrail (and embedded below).

Download PDF version of above information panels (12MB)

Read accessible text from information panels

We hope to see you there tonight!

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10 thoughts on “Lower Don Trail Public Drop-in Tonight! 4:30-8pm, St. Simons, 525 Bloor St. E.

  1. I would like to respond but I’m not interested in joining Facebook and I won’t be able to make it this evening.

    I’m hoping that the Pottery Road bridge deck will not be made of steel plate like the ones recently constructed on the trail north of Pottery Road. Even in summer there is often a lot of dew on the deck surface and I do not feel safe riding on it (the railway bridge doesn’t have a “get off and walk” sign but the other structure does, not that any cyclists pay attention)

    I would also like to reiterate my point that the Bayview trail should be extended north of Pottery Road on an improved shoulder to connect with the trail on Moore Avenue – not much structural work required, and a big boost for connectivity of the system. This section will likely get more bicycle use anyway with the completion of the trail south of Pottery Road. There should be clarity as to whether or how the shoulder on the northbound lane should be used by both northbound (slow uphill) and southbound (fast downhill) bikes – not a safe situation at the moment.

    I believe the new changes to the Ontario Traffic Act allow for bikes on highway shoulders, but I’m not sure how this would apply to a City road.

    I’m looking forward to riding the refurbished Lower Don Trail.

    Steven Rowe

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    • Hi Steve,

      Sorry for the delayed response.

      For the new bridge, the decking proposed is a weathering steel dimpled surface. This allows drainage and has a slip resistant texture. This has been used in several locations across Toronto for bridges.

      For the new multi-use trail on the east side of Bayview Ave. (see panel 12 above), we are looking into what is possible for continuing the trail north of pottery road, within the limits of the planned 2016 resurfacing project.

      Thanks again for your interest.

      -jd

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  2. Hello Jason,
    I was at the consultation meeting and I reiterated my idea of a need for some warning device on the east side of the river that would let cyclists know if a train was approaching the west side crossing. Due to obstructing trees and ambient traffic noise, it may be very difficult to see an approaching train. I was told that there won’t be an audible signal or even a flashing light on the pedestrian/bike path. Perhaps a second best plan is to post a warning sign on the east side of the bridge that says something like “Warning: approaching rail crossing. Use caution.” Add a map to the sign showing the location of the rail crossing in relation to the bridge might be useful too.

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  3. On another topic, as part of the work on Bayview in 2016 you might look at reconfiguring the road between Rosedale Valley Road and the River St. on ramp. Based on anecdotal observation this section of road is underused and could be changed to accommodate bike lanes. My idea would be to narrow the road from 4 lanes to 2 and add bike lanes. That way the bike lane network could be greatly enhanced by connecting the Bayview bike lane to River St and the downtown network. A much better connection than the Rosedale Valley Road. There would be minimal impact on road traffic.

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    • Hi again John,

      Reduction of traffic lanes for the addition of bike lanes between Rosedale Valley Rd. and River St. ramps would require more extensive study – perhaps even an Environmental Assessment – and cannot be accommodated as part of the scope of work for the Bayview resurfacing project in 2016.

      That said, study for potential bike lanes here is not precluded, and staff have identified this as a need and possibility for the future.

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  4. Glad to see investment being made to connecting some of these trails.
    Here are the issues that will arise from implementing the plan as is:
    1. The trails are not connecting to destinations. For instance, pedestrians using the new pottery road bridge have to walk all the way south along pottery road to the lights to cross to get to the Brickworks. Too far. Some will choose to jaywalk across Bayview to enter Brickworks shortest route. Others will skip the new path all together, cross Bayview at Pottery road where they are abandoned to their fate walking on the west side of Bayview.
    2. Walking path too close to Bayview. An upgrade to the Crothers Woods path between Pottery Road down to the Brickworks is far enough away from the road and railway. No one comes down to the valley to walk along a high speed roadway, they come for something that looks like nature. Plus there is enough space on the West side of Bayview for a very nice walking path through the woods away from the road and the shortest distance from new Pottery road bridge to Brickworks.
    3. someone has to figure out how to get from the nearest subway station to Brickworks via bicycle or walking. Broadview is a good choice and when you stand at the top of Chesterhill road you think you could almost touch the Brickworks but the obstacles in the way are incredible. If only you could walk out of the Broadview station, head west to the little parkette at Cambridge and Prince Edward Viaduct, zip-line to the old CP rail – Metrolinx rail and then walk north across the railway trestle you would be at the Brickworks super fast and what an experience that would be.
    4. why did metrolinx get the railroad trestle and line anyway? this would make for a super “Highline” style park that would be a huge attraction for the city, especially with the Luminous Veil on the Prince Edward Viaduct. Instead it will be a commuter corridor for the benefit of Peterborough.
    Plus – Pedestrians and cyclist would be able to cross the new bridge at Pottery road and then after crossing Bayview could have a new route where they go straight up the hill to the rail line and over the top to Brickworks.

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    • Thanks for these detailed comments, Chris. For more information on the reasoning of the current design please see the Lower Don Trail Access, Environment + Art Master Plan at http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=b339cd2e50192410VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD&vgnextchannel=53f9dada600f0410VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD

      I’ll pass on your zip-line suggestion 😉 and see if I can get any updates on plans for improving connections form Bloor to the Brick Works.

      Cheers

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    • Here is more info about potential connections to the Brick Works from Bloor…

      Staff from Transportation Services (Cycling Infrastructure together with Traffic Operations) have met onsite to investigate the opportunity for a cycling facility on the Bayview-Bloor ramps. After this review staff concluded that the installation of a two-way cycling facility on the ramp was more involved than just a simple repurposing of the shoulder of the ramp. A few significant challenges were identified:
      – Insufficient spacing within some sections of the shoulder to allow for a two-way facility even with a reduction of the width of the travel lane.
      – Steep grades and potential requirements for retaining wall structures if the cycling facility would need to be extended beyond the footprint of existing ramp.
      – Challenges with the tie-in to the existing Beltline Trail at the base of the ramps including areas that may not be within public ownership.
      – Requirement for a new signalized crossing at the top of the ramp (where it meets Castle Frank station) to allow users access to the proposed cycling facility.

      The current direction is to review the potential for a cycling facility on the Bayview-Bloor ramps at such time as the ramps are programmed for rehabilitation.

      However, we are pleased to report that in 2016, connections to Don Valley Brickworks will be greatly improved with new planned infrastructure that will be built as part of the Lower Don Improvements and the Bayview Ave resurfacing projects. More information on this upcoming work can be found online on the project website at http://www1.toronto.ca/wps/portal/contentonly?vgnextoid=f54bbe65c6595410VgnVCM10000071d60f89RCRD

      This work includes:
      – A new bi-directional multi-use trail in the east shoulder of Bayview from Pottery Rd to Rosedale Valley Rd. This new trail will be physically separated from the adjacent vehicle travel lanes. It will also connect directly to the current signalized pedestrian and cyclist crossing into the Don Valley Brickworks site.
      – A new pedestrian /cycling bridge and rail crossing at Pottery Rd that will directly connect the Lower Don Trail to the new Bayview multi-use trail.
      – The reconfiguration of the intersection of Rosedale Valley Rd and Bayview Avenue intersection. This will allow safer access from the new Bayview multi-use trail to the Rosedale Valley Rd Trail and improve the opportunity to connect with transit at Rosedale station.

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  5. Connecting from Castlefrank to Brickworks along the Bayview ramp would be an exciting ride down the hill but…
    Better and easier to use the Discovery Walk from Castlefrank that connects down to Rosedale Valley road (needs some kind of crossing to get to other side of RVD) from there to your new improvement of RVD and Bayview intersection that connects to the Bayview multiuser trail on the east side of bayview.

    Meanwhile – Pedestrians – they want the shortest path. elevator from Bloor street viaduct straight down.

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